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Hi Marc, 20/11/2006

My name is Don Whittingham and I too have a 1.8 Freelander GS with 39k on the clock on a Y plate. I have had no problems with it until yesterday when I was driving down the road and noticed a great cloud of billowing steam coming from the sides of the car.

The head gasket appears to blown and water is spraying like a hose onto the exhaust manifold. I managed to get it home without cooking it and am waiting for a quote from my local garage. No way will I take it to a dealer.

I was a motor mechanic who left the trade in 1987 and I can't remember any other car that hasn't shown any symptoms before blowing the head gasket. The car was running perfectly. I am only thankful that it hasn't happened on my way to Switzerland where i am going between Christmas and New Year. I was going to drive but after looking at your website I thinlk I'll fly.

Unfortunately I don't have the tools these days to do the job myself so I'll have to throw myself at the mercy of a local mech.

Thanks for your website, I just wish I'd read it before I bought the bloody thing. I've had it 18 months but I don't think I'll have it much longer.

Don Whittingham


10/11/2006

The Freelander head gasket problem is both well known and well understood.
My Freelander head gasket went at 45,000 miles and was duly replaced. The head was replumbed in accordance with the manufacturers instructions and there have been no more problems. With regular servicing the vehicle has covered in excess of 180,000 miles. The engines in these machines need to be treated with common sense. You do need to watch water levels and temperature gauge readings and listen to it with a sympathetic ear. It must be driven sensibly. Ignoring a different engine note and driving round the M25 with no water will write off any engine so don't blame the K series engine for your own stupid actions and ineptitude.

Dr. Keith G. Ashness.


 

Hi Marc 18/10/2006

only just noticed your site today, and wondered if the stories you have listed are all from 2005, and if to your knowledge the Freelander problems still exist in 2006?
Reason being i came close to buying a new freelander TD4 last weekend (on a special deal due to new shape coming onto the market later this year).

Seems these issues that keep popping up are not isolated cases of owners simply thrashing the engine.
Must admit this has sent alarm bells ringing and i am more inclined to give the freelander a wide berth.
kind regards

Jim
(Northampton UK)
 

(note from marc "thrashing engines", i dont think thats possible with the underpowered heap that is a freelander :)


14/10/2006

You know when you start to read certain things alarm bells ring, and then everything falls into place?

I have just had that experience from reading posts from contributors on your site.

Some weeks ago my neighbour called to say that his 1999 Freelander driven by his daughter had suddenly died with only 53,000kms (40,000miles approx).

It was taken to the local Land Rover dealer in Estepona (Spain) who quoted €4000 (Euros) for a replacement engine.

Not willing to pay this amount and also being a wealthy businessman in Gibraltar, he gave the car to my 20 year old son who works in Gibraltar as an apprentice mechanical engineer as a project.

When we got the car home and got the engine out, we noticed that the cylinder liners were loose and could be twisted and turned and raised up and down by hand, also they had worn 0.5mm grooves into the cylinder head by being dragged up and down in the bores by the pistons.

We at first considered sending the engine to be reconditioned, or look for a 2nd hand engine. I then spotted a company on ebay selling brand new 1.8K series engines for £1,300. plus £150 delivery to Spain.

I bought one of these, and we are in the process of fitting it.

Since reading the comments on your site I think we shall put this car up for sale for around £2,500 and walk away.

My son who works for Cammell Laird in Gib was also given a Rover K1.6 engine from a company car which apparently had a water pump fault. Removing the water pump produced a flow of milky white sludge (Bells…Alarms… 2 and 2 etc.)

Very best wishes,

James Gaitley (Casares Spain)


 

HI MARC, 1/10/2006
I HAVE A 2000 MILLENIUM EDITION FREELANDER.PAID 2K AT LOOKER FOR A HEAD GASKET IN AUGUST LAST YEAR. CRAZY, I KNOW!!!!! I WAS GIVEN A ONE YEAR GUARANTEE. ON MY WAY TO WORK ON 27/SEPT/06 RAC BREAKDOWN SERVICE CONFIRMED MY WORSE NIGHTMARE.HEAD GASKET,AGAIN.LAND ROVER AND LOOKERS ARE REFUSING TO HELP BECAUSE I AM 4WEEKS OVERDUE. WHAT A SERVICE!!!!. IF ANYONE KNOW OF A GOOD MECHANIC WHO CAN FIX IT AT A GREAT PRICE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

and again

6/10/2006
THANKS MARC, FOUND A MECHANIC WHO WILL FIX IT FOR £600. I WILL TRADE IT IN ASAP GOOD ADVICE. THANK YOU. ITS GOOD TO BE HEARD


Hi Marc 5/10/2006

Just got the bad news, my engine has gone again, is this a record,
S reg about 110,000 four engines?
Overheated under warranty (new engine)
Overheated under warranty (new engine)
Over heated out of warranty (new engine at our expanse) about £ 4,000.
Overheated after 16 months. Out of warranty, argued like hell replaced FOC.
Overheated after 9 months. Waiting for the verdict.

By the way Full service history with one dealer for life of car

Any advice?????

Kind regards

Mark Chisholm

 


Hi Marc 26/9/2006

Read your web site with interest.

I bought a 2nd hand freelander last year, (51 reg), no problems for the first 12 months,  took it to my local landrover dealership for a 60K service, paid nearly £600 for the privilege , 3 weeks later, head gasket goes and now they want to replace the whole engine costing £4300!!!!!.

Any advice

Cheers

Dave Willmore


hi 3/9/2007
i hope you dont mind me writing to you.
i have just read your site on land rover, and i have big problems with my car.
i am so confused as to who to write to, shall i just take them to court...
any advice would be helpful
Hope to speak to you soon,
Melanie browder
 


Hi Marc, 28/8/2006

MY CRAP FREELANDER

I was given a Freelander as a company car in 2001. When I moved jobs I decided to buy the Freelander off my employer. Shortly after, the Head-Gasket went at around 34,000 miles. Fortunately, the car was under warranty and Landrover (Rockside in Bury) replaced the engine. The next fault was the gear box. I was told by Landrover the gear box was incompatible with the new engine. Fortunately again Landrover replaced the gear box through the warranty. The next thing to fail was the seal on the rear window. This caused the lockable box in the boot to fill up with water. Landrover replace the carpets throughout the car. The next failure was the drive shaft and rear differential. This happened the night before my final year university exams and I was left to revise on the M62 for 3 hours. All of the above was fixed under warranty.

However, the warranty has now run out and the car has started to over heat, although the temperature gauges in the car all look fine I have noticed the fan is on when I stop after short journeys. I have noticed today the car is drinking water! The Freelander has now done 75,000 miles in total and the new engine has therefore done 41,000. This would suggest the head gasket may fail again as the engine is now in the common failing freshold.

I know selling the car is the best advice but I don’t really want to give somebody else a huge burden. Do you have any advice or have you heard any stories where Landrover have rectified the problems even though the car is out of warranty? Perhaps people in similar positions were given a 3/5 year engine guarantee?

Regards

Bill


Marc, 24/8/2006
 
Have been offered a 5 year old  1.8 petrol Freelander (44k). Fortunately  bumped into a mechanic friend last evening  who warned me.  In consequence read the comments on your web site about the headgasket problem. No way would I buy one of these.  Probably stick to Japanese
 
Regards,
 
John Mander
Irthlingborough
Northamptonshire

Dear Marc, 18/8/2006
 
I was 19 when I bought my freelander.  I worked for my whold gap year and six months in I decided to treat myself to a 4x4.  I got the car for £3000 cash.  It was very clean and tidy, with a full dealer service history.  I bought it in a private sale and the guy seemed very genuine, he even told me the engine had been replaced at 60K (it was at a horrific 120K when I bought it).  As soon as I was insured I drove 20 miles and yep, you guessed it I lost all compression and the car just turned off.  The AA man said "mmmmmmm head gasket".  But once taken to a garage, I was told the engine needed replacing, to the cost of a nice tidy £3000! just what I paid for the car!
 
I never knew back then (last year) that it was such a common fault.  I just got on with the repairs and decided to try to forget about the ordeal and love my car again.
 
Now, I have started writing and contacting Land Rover.  If there is a fault and they have started paying out for it, WHY is there no litrature on it? why have they not put a press release out? 
I even contacted main dealers for quotes and was never told about any assistance with repairs. It is apauling.  All my money was spent on a car which I now cannot sell and I resent.
Im a student now and its bugging me more and more every day.  Something has to be done about LR's behaviour.
 
Catherine Mawson
(london)

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